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Message started by ChrissieA on 10/17/09 at 02:07:46

Title: The Jan Moir/Stephen Gately debate
Post by ChrissieA on 10/17/09 at 02:07:46
As this seems to be all over Facebook and the press etc I just wondered what the average Delfan's take was on it all.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=151083562155&ref=nf

I wasn't a Boyzone fan but thought it was sad for him to die so young. Jan Moir's comments may reflect what lots of us might have thought about how the poor guy died and wondering about what happened that night.

Regarding the outcry, I don't think it's about making Stephen out to be a saintly, beyond reproach character but the tone of her article and some of her comments are offensive and mis-timed especially as the funeral hasn't even taken place.

Title: Re: The Jan Moir/Stephen Gately debate
Post by Joseph the Eighth on 10/20/09 at 06:40:19
Its what journo's do, when did they care how it effects the family? All they care about is getting papers sold and trying to be as controversial as possible.

I have more problem with The Daily Mail on the whole as paper, dreadful little rag run by utter tosspots.

As for Gateley himself, yeah its shame that he died so young but that happens all the time, nothing new there, he lived a charmed life and should be grateful that he lead the life he did considering the amount of musical talent that he had, its hardly the same as when Jimmy Hendrix died is it?

Saying that dying in chair bolted up right choking on your own vomit is not very rock and roll is it?

I mean if I was in the music business I would want to die choking on somebody else's vomit, now that is rock and roll!!

Title: Re: The Jan Moir/Stephen Gately debate
Post by hayley on 10/29/09 at 10:13:29
We talked about all this a lot at work and pretty much all agreed that Charlie Brooker's response in his column in The Guardian said most of it more eloquently than we did.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/oct/16/stephen-gately-jan-moir

Title: Re: The Jan Moir/Stephen Gately debate
Post by ChrissieA on 10/29/09 at 11:24:53
I read his column at the time and thought it was very good...he's very clever with words and structure and you feel his anger leaping out of the article.

Title: Re: The Jan Moir/Stephen Gately debate
Post by hayley on 10/30/09 at 06:37:14
2 of his books are going for £3 each at HMV and I went out and bought them in support on reading his article. †;) †Barely contained rage and bile on every page. †Speaking of which, has anyone heard from Joe recently?

Title: Re: The Jan Moir/Stephen Gately debate
Post by Joseph the Eighth on 11/03/09 at 13:34:49

hayley wrote on 10/29/09 at 10:13:29:
We talked about all this a lot at work and pretty much all agreed that Charlie Brooker's response in his column in The Guardian said most of it more eloquently than we did.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/oct/16/stephen-gately-jan-moir


Speak for yourself, I thought what I said was better.

Title: Re: The Jan Moir/Stephen Gately debate
Post by hayley on 11/04/09 at 06:33:01
In the absence of evidence I'll have to take your word for it.

Title: Re: The Jan Moir/Stephen Gately debate
Post by Joseph the Eighth on 11/05/09 at 06:56:46
Did you ask to borrow that line?

Title: Re: The Jan Moir/Stephen Gately debate
Post by hayley on 11/12/09 at 05:06:12
Ask whom?  I wasn't aware it was trademarked.

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